The only thing you should be credited for is the thing you didn't mention. The leveling. You see, you can to grind to stand a chance, it took me five attempts to beat Franky, but i was level five and kept avoiding enemies.
I don't even remember having to do much grinding in the game (of course, I made this stupid comic about a year ago). I just remember I found the entire affair tedious. South Park: The Stick of Destiny was a far superior game and did everything right that this game did wrong. I'd pick up a copy for myself except that I have small children in the house and there's no way I'll get the chance to sit back and properly enjoy it for a LONG time with kids around.
I feel for you. The game has psychedelia going for it, but the gameplay is as generic and plotless as any 80s RPG can get.
Also, Giygas is severly overrated, as it's nothing but a giant brain that literally CAN'T do anything. The real villain was Porky, as he was the one who was actually doing all the villainous planning and coordination since Giygas was too brain-dead to even so much as string a thought together (Porky says it best about Giygas in the end: "What an almighty idiot!").
The game had some interesting ideas, but ultimately fell completely flat just as you say. Unfortunately, it seems that having an interesting idea or two is all it needs for people to say it's the greatest thing ever even if those ideas weren't seen through to fruition. I'd love to see a legitimate remake that actually expands on the quirky idea instead of the lame "Go here and fight something. Now go here and fight something" old RPG format.
Not to be rude, but I bet you only hate the game cause Giygas scared you sh*tless as a kid. If that's true, I know the feel of scarred psyche from a video game villain and/or video game monster. If I'm wrong, then please disregard this comment.
I didn't play the game until my late twenties. I felt nothing during the course of the game. Absolutely no emotional attachment whatsoever. That's one of the biggest reasons why I find it so bad. It was a long, boring, pointless exercise from which I benefited nothing.
I'd be mad, if it weren't for the fact that I know you just love to rustle people's jimmies, and because I know that you never seriously hate on people for liking stuff that you don't, and because I love ya, Matt. XD Granted, that didn't stop me from mailing you that bomb, but still. :33
The only reason you had the latter reaction is because you're made from coal and mean thoughts and half-chewed Fruit Stripe gum, and you've got termites in your soul (and not even the cool African termites that build those huge mounds, but the other, humdrum kind).
Meh. I'd like to see a remake of it with better gameplay and more attention on truly exploring the weird world it takes place in rather than the game's current feeling of "yeah, this place is weird but we're not going to bother showing you enough to make you interested."
well, I don't think it was supposed to be over-the-top weird just slightly weird ever heard the term "magical realism"
also, I kinda like the idea of basing a villain one one's childhood trauma there's a reason why the experience was traumatic, and an artist can use the medium to invoke similar emotions (let's face it, Gygas really looks more like something you'd see in a Silent Hill game, than something you'd expect from Nintendo)
I can't; I'm too full of Subway (trademark) delicious-ness to activate further motions that require such a cynical-yet-hysterical act to take further initiative. And this freaking song is getting stuck in my head: [link]
I enjoy the game, but I wouldn't say the game is terribly deep. Mother 3 is more heavy on symbolism, really.
Earthbound's really more of a quirky humor kind of game. I think the style was more of an experiment to get the game to have a sort of American flavor (or America as understood by Japanese via TV, music and movies). The weirdness can be hit and miss (like Marmite, you either love it or hate it) but it was one of the factors of the game that differed it from the other RPGs at the time; lots of them were set in Fantasy Sword and Sorcery settings and were more serious in overall tone.
The part at the end with Giygas is supposed to be a jarring change of tone to emphasize how terrifying Giygas is. He's not the scariest enemy in gaming history, but he is the scariest in this game. People who weren't spoiled to it probably expected having to fight some goofy-looking alien as the last boss.
Now, there may be "weeaboos" and hipsters who like (or even pretend to like) the game, but I believe the majority of Earthbound fans like the game unironically. The people over at starmen.net are a good example. They have been around since 1999 with the mission to "raise the level of quality of Earthbound-related content," and they've been updating ever since. They even went to great lengths to rally petitions to get Mother 3 stateside, or a VC release for Earthbound. They've organized charity drives while doing speed runs of the games. They still put up and display any and all fanart they receive from their members (and even non-members). I don't know much about hipsters, but I don't think they'd stick to something this long, or put this much effort into something that most considered a dead franchise. I'd think they'd probably have moved on to something hip, like plugging indie games that they've likely never played.
Now before you come at me with something like "It's a joke" or "Discord said it, not me" or even "I still hate the game you can't change my mind," I know. I'm not going to try to tell you that you should like the the game because so and so or whatever. I just felt like some of your points needed a counterargument. Taste is one thing, but the people who legitimately like the game are not the ones you say they are.
Oh, I know there are plenty of people who like it for legitimate reasons (though for the life of me I can't understand why). I just wrote it to rustle the jimmies of the easily rustled. In other words, "Discord said it." *laughs*
Personally, people can like whatever they like. I don't care. I just like tearing apart the things I can't stand and get just as much amusement from people doing the same to things they hate that I may like. The Nostalgia Critic's review of "Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog" is a perfect example. Love the cartoon, but also loved watching him call it weird, stupid, and hyperactive. Because it is.
Heh, yeah, I got a good laugh out of seeing the change in expression. Even though I personally can't stand SatAM (with the exception of Antoine and Bunny who are hilarious and should just get their own show or something).
It's funnier now, I'll give it that. It pokes fun at how silly its premise is from time to time and even makes funny call-outs to the other Sonic cartoons and comics. Unfortunately, it's still got a ridiculously bloated story. I wish they had kept the Sonic X comic running. That one was just satisfied being a funny superhero comic about a video game without being a boring furry soap opera.
It's a shame, really. I love the artwork in the new comics, but the stories are just so lame.
The MegaMan comic series is good. They stay true to the video games without trying to complicate it with their own additions. The problem with the Sonic comics is that when they first started there wasn't much of an established canon to work with so they had to make their own. Then the cartoon ended so they felt they had to continue the story from the cartoon in the comic which made things a little more complex, then as the games developed further they tried mixing the game canon with the comic/cartoon canon...
It's just so busy. It really needs a LEGIT reboot and not just that little four-part teaser they did.
Damn, this comic NAILED that game and it's players. That guy thought not only that the game was misunderstood, but he gave terrible reasons to why it was the greatest rpg ever, like he had never heard of the elders scrolls, dragon age, or fallout series! Fallout being the biggest since he said that the game was in modern times. It makes me agree with this guy 100% now, and, yes, I only got a few minutes in.
Thanks for showing this to me, it did help! Have a doughnut
And I don't give a damn about him. And, yes the game does have it's own uniqueness, but in NO way does that make a game good, it can just add to the quality. The reason, however, that I do not like this guy is because he said that if you consider yourself an rpg game and you've never played this game, you're not. I would've punched him in the mouth if he'd said that in real life!
Anyways, sorry for the paragraph, and I don't mean to hate, I'm just speaking my mind.
well, it means you are not a hard-core RPG fan (the sort that plays every notable entry into the genera from throughout it's history) from the games you mentioned, it seems you are into modern RPGs, and not very much into the genera's history
some people would therefore consider you more of a consumer of the genera, rather than a fan
mind you, I don't really care much about the fandom elitism, but it exists [link]
I'm a hardcore cartoon fan and have watched a lot of things that are considered important for some reason or another, but never would I claim "You're not a cartoon fan if you haven't watched Fritz the Cat." That's like saying "You don't know what life has to offer until you've had a small child use your groin as a punching bag for an hour and a half."
Statements like that are just arrogant and self-masturbatory.
Although I will say that you can't be a hardcore RPG fan if you haven't played Final Fantasy 9. Mmm... Yeah... That makes the ol' ego feel real good!